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Interesting A Luxury Survivalist Community Is Tearing Itself Apart

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They went to South Dakota to ride out the apocalypse at a ‘5-star’ bunker compound. They’re already at each other’s throats with HOA-style grievances.​

IGLOO, S.D.—Row upon row of concrete bunkers with steel blast doors peek up from the rolling grasslands—like hobbit holes for the apocalypse.

There are 575 of them, clustered on a former munitions depot near South Dakota’s Black Hills and billed as “The Largest Survival Community on Earth.” The pitch: Ride out nuclear war, the next pandemic or societal collapse in relative comfort.

Yet for many residents, the dream has soured. The threat hasn’t come from Armageddon, but from friction that resembles a suburban homeowners’ association battle.

"Lawsuits, countersuits and disputes are piling up over septic systems, property taxes, off-leash dogs and a growing list of community rules. The legal skirmishing has reached the state supreme court—twice. Promised amenities, including a restaurant bunker, a pool bunker and a horse-stable bunker, have yet to materialize. Guns have been drawn, and there have been offers to settle things with fists. The developer denies wrongdoing and says complaints come from a few malcontents.

“You get that many people with the same mentality in a small place like that, eventually they’re going to cross over each others’ lines and you’re going to have a conflict,” said Larry Harter, a retired locomotive engineer in nearby Edgemont, population 725. He was nursing a beer recently at the Victory Steakhouse & Lounge, where preppers from the compound sometimes turn up for dinner or a drink."

Bunker mentality

Residents who move in find that preparing for the end times is just one challenge. They receive a long list of rules—including a ban on talking about the compound or its owner to the media, with penalties that can include eviction—and Vivos can change the rules mid-lease. “Vivos has prided itself on the ability of members to coexist with each other and within the confines of the Rules and Regulations,” it said in an email to lessees.

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I'm glad we don't have these problems in our bunker!

There's more to the story at the link and I hate it when sites don't permit their URL to unfurl.
 
If the SHTF, a community like that is the last place I'd want to be. Looks like a bunch of people got sold on the idea of security if and when it pops off, but have found it takes more than just a fancy bunker. I've noticed the people who are really serious about survival keep to themselves and build their own bunkers. If they're arguing now, imagine what it would be like if it was real. They'd be shooting each other inside of a week.
 

They went to South Dakota to ride out the apocalypse at a ‘5-star’ bunker compound. They’re already at each other’s throats with HOA-style grievances.​



"Lawsuits, countersuits and disputes are piling up over septic systems, property taxes, off-leash dogs and a growing list of community rules. The legal skirmishing has reached the state supreme court—twice. Promised amenities, including a restaurant bunker, a pool bunker and a horse-stable bunker, have yet to materialize. Guns have been drawn, and there have been offers to settle things with fists. The developer denies wrongdoing and says complaints come from a few malcontents.

“You get that many people with the same mentality in a small place like that, eventually they’re going to cross over each others’ lines and you’re going to have a conflict,” said Larry Harter, a retired locomotive engineer in nearby Edgemont, population 725. He was nursing a beer recently at the Victory Steakhouse & Lounge, where preppers from the compound sometimes turn up for dinner or a drink."



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I'm glad we don't have these problems in our bunker!

There's more to the story at the link and I hate it when sites don't permit their URL to unfurl.

I read about this a while back mostly taking note of how some individuals renovated the bunkers to make them comfortable and life sustainable.

The link you have provided requires a subscription from my end.

I would like to make the point that the outcome hasn't surprised me. There are instances down here where community living has been turned on its head for one or more the of reasons outlined. Close proximity living is what we avoid. It works for us.

Living under rules like those of a tyrant landlord, HOA and the constant need to be vigilant wouldn't suit us. Also we like the space and the ability to have an open fire, music, operate machinery like my saws and splitter, outside smokey, pizza oven, BBQ, music etc.

It's inevitable this will all come to an end but if I have to move for whatever reasons, health, economy or the need for closer services so be it but will look for a village or settled area where there are like minded people and not be under a rule of thumb subject to BS and innuendo from complainants.

I've already been looking to upsticks and locate a new 'dig' and surprisingly there are a few close enough on the coast with managable equity for us and near my true love's place of employment (she loves her work and responsibilities) and I like dicking around on the beach with the dogs and fishing.

TBH I'm not easy to get along with when unnecessary restrictions are imposed. I can go out anywhere and take a pee even at night in front of strange flying lights.

The only adversary here is nature itself which turns outside projects inside out. Silly example, my pear trees have started blossoming. Didn't shed all their leaves during Autumn/fall. Now it's the beginning of winter. They are 3 months ahead of time. ???

Another effed example is the other day i drove my daughters car, taking her and true love for a drive to the coast to visit the doctor. Not often I get out. First time driving the daughters car. Well, on the way home, on a straight stretch of the motorway, heavy rain, travelling below the speed limit behind other traffic. Got pulled over by the police. First time in many years. Exchanged pleasantries. 'Random Breath Test' Okay. Being an ex copper I thought this is odd. The officer, young, was fine, but had a puzzled look on his face. Looked at my licence, glanced through the window at the ladies. I said, "Have I done anything wrong?" He replied "No sir, you're fine." So, went back out onto the road thinking "That's different." Till my daughter says, "Happens all the time in my car dad. They scan the number plate/registration." Scanners. Heard of them but we never had that back in the day. The car was owned by those involved in Meth. The plate had not been changed only the ownership.

Anyway, bit longwinded. Just an example why I live out here and will drive my car in future if going to town means being pulled over. Can see the same happening to this little community in South Dakota.

Kind regards,

Bally)
 
Sorry about that subscription site. It let me in so I figured it would others.

I HATE HOAs. The last place I lived had one run by Nazis. The home I live in now, that belongs to my ex-husband who lets me live here rent free* is not in an HOA neighborhood and I totally love it.

*I do give him a couple grand every year for insurance and property taxes -the place has been paid off for 25 years.

I first moved here in 1985 when I got married and the place was only 2 years old. I moved out in 1997 and back in again in 2020. He hasn't lived here for 15 or more years and the place was turned into an auto/machine shop and storage unit and is thus trashed but since he doesn't work anymore, it's all been basically abandoned. The outside area, which was once the backyard and auto shop complete with two electric hoists is entirely concrete surrounded by 9 foot tall block walls and heavy gates all covered by an industrial awning that cost him $30K. I call it my compound and out back is where I do my woodworking.

I won' talk about the inside but with a metal lathe/mill in my kitchen and what was once the living room now filled with tools, parts racks and other machinery, let's just say it's not your normal type of residence but I've lived under this roof longer than I have any other in my entire life and it is home to me, warts and all.
 
Sorry about that subscription site. It let me in so I figured it would others.

I HATE HOAs. The last place I lived had one run by Nazis. The home I live in now, that belongs to my ex-husband who lets me live here rent free* is not in an HOA neighborhood and I totally love it.

*I do give him a couple grand every year for insurance and property taxes -the place has been paid off for 25 years.

I first moved here in 1985 when I got married and the place was only 2 years old. I moved out in 1997 and back in again in 2020. He hasn't lived here for 15 or more years and the place was turned into an auto/machine shop and storage unit and is thus trashed but since he doesn't work anymore, it's all been basically abandoned. The outside area, which was once the backyard and auto shop complete with two electric hoists is entirely concrete surrounded by 9 foot tall block walls and heavy gates all covered by an industrial awning that cost him $30K. I call it my compound and out back is where I do my woodworking.

I won' talk about the inside but with a metal lathe/mill in my kitchen and what was once the living room now filled with tools, parts racks and other machinery, let's just say it's not your normal type of residence but I've lived under this roof longer than I have any other in my entire life and it is home to me, warts and all.
As long as you're happy and feel safe.

That's most important to me.

Bally)
 
Article i find : Igloo bunker residents file class-action lawsuit against owner

They payed quite a lot to get just a lease, but had to build then stuff to make it normal like ...

Location in google maps : Igloo South Dakota

Lawsuits, FBI probe engulf South Dakota doomsday bunker complex

Sounds like a scam, the owner Robert Vicino sounds as business man who wanted to make money from peoples fear.

I noticed from pictures that each compund has air ventilation pipes on top, on the ground........That`s the first thing outsiders would sabotage if they get there in SHTF ......to force the residents come out, to get air ;)
 
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I get this. I really do. It happens. It's not about the people and their dreams.

Sorry to say but the owner needs medication. Of the Pb type. Or 82 on the atomic scale.

In Australian terms we brand them 'grubs'.

Will leave you with that.

My regards,

Bally
 
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